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Would You Ever Download Films
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantShinyDiscGuy
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Instead of ever buying physical media
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At some point the (legal!) streaming services will win....

Requires cheap services, no 24 h limit on watching etc, much like WiMP / Spotify on music.

Not gonna happen in 2010 
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You forgot the option if that is the only way to see a particular film.  I think that will matter a lot as time goes by for niche films.  I also think that the real answer, whether anybody wants to admit it or not, will be all of the above, because we'll need all three methods to be able to see everything.
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You forgot the option if that is the only way to see a particular film.  I think that will matter a lot as time goes buy for niche films.  I also think that the real answer, whether anybody wants to admit it or not, will be all of the above, because we'll need all three methods to be able to see everything.


The problem with download is that technology evolves faster on p[physical media. So by the time we have perfect HD content we will be looking at holographic.
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I do now. I stream netflix via my 360 and love it.
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While I'll buy movies on Bluray, I've been watching TV series streamed from Netflix.

Their HD isn't too shabby, the one thing I miss is the 5.1 audio.
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Only if I get a local copy that I can watch when I want how often I want - just like with a real disc.
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The big problem I have with getting a movie online is the whole DRM issue.

If I have to count on a company and a server to be up for me to be able to view the movie I purchased, then no thanks.  I will either stick with real media, or not purchasing.  To much risk in losing access to something I own.

But, if we are talking about rentals, like Netflix, then I see downloads as a very viable alternative.  I can count on a company or server to be up for a few days.
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If it is something I want to watch several times, I will stick with the physical media.

If it was something I was only going to rent, then I might use a downloaded service.
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The big problem I have with getting a movie online is the whole DRM issue.

If I have to count on a company and a server to be up for me to be able to view the movie I purchased, then no thanks.  I will either stick with real media, or not purchasing.  To much risk in losing access to something I own.

But, if we are talking about rentals, like Netflix, then I see downloads as a very viable alternative.  I can count on a company or server to be up for a few days.


Yeah as rental service it works out well. But when where talking owning then what? First the hard drive space as storage and your standard hard drive only lasts 5 years.

Will your record of ownership of content be kept on a database when it will inevitably fail. Do studios really want such a raw piece of content of say a 4k master of one there films being streamed across the net.

The security would have to be so air tight to get such a mass acceptance from them. Just a couple of things that come to mind.
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The big problem I have with getting a movie online is the whole DRM issue.

If I have to count on a company and a server to be up for me to be able to view the movie I purchased, then no thanks.  I will either stick with real media, or not purchasing.  To much risk in losing access to something I own.

But, if we are talking about rentals, like Netflix, then I see downloads as a very viable alternative.  I can count on a company or server to be up for a few days.


Yeah as rental service it works out well. But when where talking owning then what? First the hard drive space as storage and your standard hard drive only lasts 5 years.

Will your record of ownership of content be kept on a database when it will inevitably fail. Do studios really want such a raw piece of content of say a 4k master of one there films being streamed across the net.

The security would have to be so air tight to get such a mass acceptance from them. Just a couple of things that come to mind.


You are basing all of this under the assumption that everyone is like us DVD collectors. They aren't. The majority of people don't need a collection, aren't audio and/or videophiles and just want to see the movie. That's why, eventually, the majority of media (video) will be streamed.
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If the studios allowed us to burn what we downloaded to disc, along with printable cover artwork - to create our own physical product at home - I'd go for it.
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The big problem I have with getting a movie online is the whole DRM issue.

If I have to count on a company and a server to be up for me to be able to view the movie I purchased, then no thanks.  I will either stick with real media, or not purchasing.  To much risk in losing access to something I own.

But, if we are talking about rentals, like Netflix, then I see downloads as a very viable alternative.  I can count on a company or server to be up for a few days.


Yeah as rental service it works out well. But when where talking owning then what? First the hard drive space as storage and your standard hard drive only lasts 5 years.

Will your record of ownership of content be kept on a database when it will inevitably fail. Do studios really want such a raw piece of content of say a 4k master of one there films being streamed across the net.

The security would have to be so air tight to get such a mass acceptance from them. Just a couple of things that come to mind.


You are basing all of this under the assumption that everyone is like us DVD collectors. They aren't. The majority of people don't need a collection, aren't audio and/or videophiles and just want to see the movie. That's why, eventually, the majority of media (video) will be streamed.


Your assuming then the majority of people never want to own a movie again and not have the luxury of watching it when ever they want.

That we will all be slaves DRM.
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The big problem I have with getting a movie online is the whole DRM issue.

If I have to count on a company and a server to be up for me to be able to view the movie I purchased, then no thanks.  I will either stick with real media, or not purchasing.  To much risk in losing access to something I own.

But, if we are talking about rentals, like Netflix, then I see downloads as a very viable alternative.  I can count on a company or server to be up for a few days.


Yeah as rental service it works out well. But when where talking owning then what? First the hard drive space as storage and your standard hard drive only lasts 5 years.

Will your record of ownership of content be kept on a database when it will inevitably fail. Do studios really want such a raw piece of content of say a 4k master of one there films being streamed across the net.

The security would have to be so air tight to get such a mass acceptance from them. Just a couple of things that come to mind.


You are basing all of this under the assumption that everyone is like us DVD collectors. They aren't. The majority of people don't need a collection, aren't audio and/or videophiles and just want to see the movie. That's why, eventually, the majority of media (video) will be streamed.


Your assuming then the majority of people never want to own a movie again and not have the luxury of watching it when ever they want.

That we will all be slaves DRM.


They don't. DVD collectors represent an extreme minority of people.
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Interesting article regarding last year's trends.

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Last year was the first since 2002 that U.S. consumers spent more money buying movie tickets than buying movies to watch at home, underscoring the changing economics of Hollywood.

According to new data from Adams Media Research, Americans spent $9.87 billion at the box office in 2009, 10% more than in 2008, according to a report Adams plans to release Tuesday. At the same time, sales in the U.S. of feature films on DVD, long a cornerstone of movie studios' business models, plunged 13% to $8.73 billion, including Blu-ray high-definition discs. (Other companies that track box-office receipts include Canada in their North American figures, adding about 7% to the total and pushing the year's gross above $10 billion.)


I certainly don't like where it's heading, as I prefer to own the disc, but it is what it is.
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Interesting article regarding last year's trends.

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Last year was the first since 2002 that U.S. consumers spent more money buying movie tickets than buying movies to watch at home, underscoring the changing economics of Hollywood.

According to new data from Adams Media Research, Americans spent $9.87 billion at the box office in 2009, 10% more than in 2008, according to a report Adams plans to release Tuesday. At the same time, sales in the U.S. of feature films on DVD, long a cornerstone of movie studios' business models, plunged 13% to $8.73 billion, including Blu-ray high-definition discs. (Other companies that track box-office receipts include Canada in their North American figures, adding about 7% to the total and pushing the year's gross above $10 billion.)


I certainly don't like where it's heading, as I prefer to own the disc, but it is what it is.


Don't know where that guy get's his figures But Blu-ray is most certainly up. The reason as i see it that cinema sales beat home media was due to 3D.
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