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20th Century Fox Home Entertainment vs. Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment
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From the Beta Forum:

Quoting Ken Cole:
*EDIT* Updated to build 1235 with the following changes:
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• Increased overview font size to match Easter eggs, notes
• Corrected issue that caused cast/crew photos to scroll out of view
• Renamed media distributor to media producer

It sounds like the DVD Distributor vs. DVD Producer issue is now moot.
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It sounds like the DVD Distributor vs. DVD Producer issue is now moot.

Now someone - preferably the rules - just need to explain what a "media producer" is, and where to get this piece of data from. It may be obvious for the "The Criterion Collection", but for vasts amounts of stuff distributed by little local distributors across the various regions and localities I'm truly in the dark. 
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I thought that this makes it a little easier. Media producer (or publisher if you want) is more correct. Take e.g. studios like Blue Underground, Severin Films, NoShame etc. They're all distributed by Ryko Distribution, mainly because the don't have their own distribution arm (too expensive). The distributor field made it a little messy, since people were unsure of what to enter. This move by Ken cleared up the confusion, as far as I see it.
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Quoting Beastus:
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I thought that this makes it a little easier. Media producer (or publisher if you want) is more correct. Take e.g. studios like Blue Underground, Severin Films, NoShame etc. They're all distributed by Ryko Distribution, mainly because the don't have their own distribution arm (too expensive). The distributor field made it a little messy, since people were unsure of what to enter. This move by Ken cleared up the confusion, as far as I see it.

I can certainly see the benefit for the example you gave. There are, however, also many cases where the exact opposite is true. Personally, I'd be a lot happier using the term "publisher" (even Criterion refers to itself as a publisher on their website) than "producer", which can be interpreted to mean many different things. "Publisher" I can deal with a whole lot better - that actually makes sense. Maybe we should indeed campaign for "media publisher"?
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Quoting T!M:
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I thought that this makes it a little easier. Media producer (or publisher if you want) is more correct. Take e.g. studios like Blue Underground, Severin Films, NoShame etc. They're all distributed by Ryko Distribution, mainly because the don't have their own distribution arm (too expensive). The distributor field made it a little messy, since people were unsure of what to enter. This move by Ken cleared up the confusion, as far as I see it.

I can certainly see the benefit for the example you gave. There are, however, also many cases where the exact opposite is true. Personally, I'd be a lot happier using the term "publisher" (even Criterion refers to itself as a publisher on their website) than "producer", which can be interpreted to mean many different things. "Publisher" I can deal with a whole lot better - that actually makes sense. Maybe we should indeed campaign for "media publisher"?


I wouldn't mind the term "Publisher" as well, if "Producer" indeed causes that much confusion. I also think that, in those other threads, hydr0x made some very valid and (at least to me) convincing points, regarding some cases where "producer" might be a little misleading.

But, then I'm not that hung up on the literal field name. I never thought that calling the field "Media Distributor" would be problematic, and it seems that Ken too didn't imagine that.
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I also think that, in those other threads, hydr0x made some very valid and (at least to me) convincing points, regarding some cases where "producer" might be a little misleading.

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But, then I'm not that hung up on the literal field name. I never thought that calling the field "Media Distributor" would be problematic, and it seems that Ken too didn't imagine that.

Okay: shall we unite and try to convice Ken to switch to "publisher" then? I'll gladly take that over the problem-prone "producer", and then I'll shut up about the whole thing. 
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It would certainly take some (but not all - more of a locality 20 problem) of my current confusion away if it was called "media publisher"  instead of "media producer" ...
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"Media publisher" works for me... 
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I have no problem with publisher.
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I don't mind what it's called as long as the rules are clear about what should be placed in the field.
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Publisher sounds like a good compromise to me.
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Sorry to bump this old thread, but does this also apply to 20th Century Fox to be changed to Twentieth Century Fox?
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I don't think I've ever seen 20th written, except in the logo. In the credits its always spelled out Twentieth. But maybe there are exceptions.
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Quoting Patsa:
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I don't think I've ever seen 20th written, except in the logo. In the credits its always spelled out Twentieth.

I've found the same.
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Think it depends on what is in the credits.
Just did a test submission had 20th Century Fox in the studios field and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment in the MC field the contribution filter only changed the one in the MC field the one in the studios field stayed unchanged
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