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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
And obviously appell isn't willing to even give the smallest info about his installation. I'm working as an administrator and up to now never met anything like a standard XPPro installation. All computers are different by hardware setup and software configuration. If we don't get at least the absolute basics (CPU-manufacturer and type, graphics, mainboard chipset, installed software and software running while attempting the installation) neither we, nor anyone else will be able to help.
@ appell: BTW this, as you slightly disrespectful called it, "public forum" is stuffed with computer professionals of all levels, the knowhow that can be met here is quite unique outside of technets. Not unwilling, just don't understand why the people who sold me the software can't help me. I don't think referring to a forum that anyone is able to join as a "public forum" is being disrespectful. Is it not public? I am very impressed with the feedback, and I definitely do not want to insult anyone here. I am starting to understand why the tech pointed me here, but that doesn't excuse him just giving up. Just for reference, I'm a computer systems engineer, but my game is *nix and networking, so these Windows breeds frustrate the heck out of me. When I say standar, I mean I popped in the install CD, booted, and folllowed the instructiions. Then I ran all of the updates, including SP2. The machine is an EPIA with a Via Samuel 2 CPU 800MHz and 512MB RAM. Its dedicated to my Homeseer installation, hence the Mini-ITX. Homeseer and DVD Profiler are the only things that run on it, and yes, I tried installing DVD Profiler first AND second. I'm frustrated because I was running DP2.3.1 for a couple of years until I was forced to upgrade, which is what is killing me. thanks, ken |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Appell,
Since you are used to running Unix I'm wondering if this is a permissions problem. With Unix, (or at least when I used Unix at work) everything would run whilst the machine was locked down. And that was no problem - but with windows XP it needs to be installed under an administrator account (and I personally run it using an administrator account).
Can you just confirm what type of account you used to install it? | | | Paul |
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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote: Appell,
Since you are used to running Unix I'm wondering if this is a permissions problem. With Unix, (or at least when I used Unix at work) everything would run whilst the machine was locked down. And that was no problem - but with windows XP it needs to be installed under an administrator account (and I personally run it using an administrator account).
Can you just confirm what type of account you used to install it? I only have one account set up and it has full administrator permissions. To be certain, I also logged in as administrator and tried there. No dice. thanks, ken |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | OK, let's see, for starting the safe mode of Windows you have to press the "F8"-button immediately after the machine went through the BIOS (shortly before the Windows logo appears). When you do so please login on the "administrator" account first and try the installation here. If the installation ran fine log in on your account afterwards (still in safe mode) and see if the program starts. If "Yes" the problem should be solved. If any of these fails please come up again. Since I'm not quite sure what you mean with "Homeseer" ist it this? If "Yes", does it start automtically at Windows Startup? Did you disable it during the installation of DVDPro? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote: OK, let's see, for starting the safe mode of Windows you have to press the "F8"-button immediately after the machine went through the BIOS (shortly before the Windows logo appears). When you do so please login on the "administrator" account first and try the installation here. If the installation ran fine log in on your account afterwards (still in safe mode) and see if the program starts.
If "Yes" the problem should be solved. If any of these fails please come up again.
Since I'm not quite sure what you mean with "Homeseer" ist it this? If "Yes", does it start automtically at Windows Startup? Did you disable it during the installation of DVDPro? The installation is not the issue, but I'll give this a try. Its the startup that is the problem. And yes, that URL is the Homeseer that I speak of. Its what I use for home automation. I had problems with DP before I even installed HS, so I've pretty much ruled that out as the problem. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 404 |
| Posted: | | | | If you have an invalid entry in the registry, that maybe a problem also. Uninstalling and reinstalling won't help if the uninstall doesn't completely wipe out these entries.
I would uninstall first. Then run regedit, (click on Start -> Run and type Regedit) look in the branch HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ and see if you can find an entry called "Invelos Software". If so, delete it, then reinstall. Make sure you have uninstalled first though. | | | The Other DVD Forum Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? |
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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting zymurgist: Quote: Quoting goblinsdoitall:
Quote: OK, let's see, for starting the safe mode of Windows you have to press the "F8"-button immediately after the machine went through the BIOS (shortly before the Windows logo appears). When you do so please login on the "administrator" account first and try the installation here. If the installation ran fine log in on your account afterwards (still in safe mode) and see if the program starts.
If "Yes" the problem should be solved. If any of these fails please come up again.
Since I'm not quite sure what you mean with "Homeseer" ist it this? If "Yes", does it start automtically at Windows Startup? Did you disable it during the installation of DVDPro? The installation is not the issue, but I'll give this a try. Its the startup that is the problem. And yes, that URL is the Homeseer that I speak of. Its what I use for home automation. I had problems with DP before I even installed HS, so I've pretty much ruled that out as the problem. Didn't work. |
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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting tlevel: Quote: If you have an invalid entry in the registry, that maybe a problem also. Uninstalling and reinstalling won't help if the uninstall doesn't completely wipe out these entries.
I would uninstall first. Then run regedit, (click on Start -> Run and type Regedit) look in the branch HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ and see if you can find an entry called "Invelos Software". If so, delete it, then reinstall. Make sure you have uninstalled first though. Thanks, but still crashing. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | I know this has been mentioned before but perhaps I didn't catch it. Does it crash with the default empty database or are you trying to open some sort of restored database? Frankly, if its just a vanilla install with an empty database, I'm at a loss. Can't say that I've seen or heard of this one before. |
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Registered: March 26, 2007 | Posts: 196 |
| Posted: | | | | Can you hook up a debugger and see where it's crashing? |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | have you got the latest drivers and bios for your mother board: VIA Embedded Boards - Download CenterHave you the possibility to increase the memory on this motherboard? 512 > 1 GB and could you test this before you purchase these? It seems the EPIA motherboard is verry picky with its memory modules. Wich mother board is it exactly? Mini-ITX EPIA SN EPIA EX EPIA EK EPIA EN EPIA CN EPIA LT EPIA LN EPIA PE EPIA M EPIA ML EPIA Another path to investigate would be the Dispaly resolution your running on. Is it VGA standard or a TV resolution. | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting smeehrrr: Quote: Can you hook up a debugger and see where it's crashing? It crashes at applicition initalization, funnily it proceeds with starting. (Bold by me) Quote: 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Application Startup. 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Checking AppInit 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: AppInit False 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Check for success 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Freeing AppRegistry 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: AppRegistry Free 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Checking additional params 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Creating splash 10/19/2007 2:09:07 PM: Splash shown. Application.Initialize processing 10/19/2007 2:09:08 PM: Creating Main form 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Main form create starting 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Forcing directories 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Initializing threads 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Validating registration 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Loading locality list 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Reading options from registy 10/19/2007 2:09:10 PM: Translation intializing 10/19/2007 2:09:11 PM: Creating DataMod 10/19/2007 2:09:12 PM: Creating additional forms 10/19/2007 2:09:14 PM: Retranslating Main form 10/19/2007 2:09:14 PM: Plugin load skipped due to ALT held All in all it sounds like a corrupt database problem to me. @zymurgist: Did you and if yes how did you import your 2.x database? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,745 |
| Posted: | | | | @zymurgist Please try the following: Go to your folder "My Documents". There should be a folder "DVD Profiler". Correct? Open it. There should be a folder "Databases". Correct? Open it. There should be a folder "Default". Correct? If so, please rename "Default" to something else and try to run DVD Profiler. If all goes well there should be an error message like this: | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | After a clean installation this should be the stiuation: Programs Database Administrator The log file should be like this the 1st time after the installation : 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Forcing directories 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Initializing threads 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Validating registration 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Loading locality list 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Reading options from registy 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Translation intializing 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Creating DataMod 23/04/2008 12:21:24: Creating additional forms 23/04/2008 12:21:25: Performing triggers 23/04/2008 12:21:25: Retranslating Main form 23/04/2008 12:21:25: Initializing plugins 23/04/2008 12:21:27: Main form showing 23/04/2008 12:21:29: Main form activating 23/04/2008 12:21:32: Freeing splash 23/04/2008 12:21:32: Running Application 23/04/2008 12:21:40: Application Shutdown Complete. 23/04/2008 12:21:40: frmMain Destroy Start 23/04/2008 12:21:40: frmMain Destroy End | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: I know this has been mentioned before but perhaps I didn't catch it. Does it crash with the default empty database or are you trying to open some sort of restored database? Frankly, if its just a vanilla install with an empty database, I'm at a loss. Can't say that I've seen or heard of this one before. I haven't even gotten far enough to import my old database. |
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Registered: October 18, 2007 | Posts: 32 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting smeehrrr: Quote: Can you hook up a debugger and see where it's crashing? You have something in mind? I don't know the first thing about windoze debuggers. |
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