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Me too, Dan.  And, this is an area that deserves enhancement for the next release.

Though it is not exactly the same problem, it would be good to consider the case of "The Dark Knight", with a blu-ray release that presents the movie in alternate format, 2.35:1 for some scenes, and 1.78:1 for the others. So on the same track, we have images with black bars appearing and disappearing...

Actually, I'm glad you brought that up here.

I think that an additional tick box with a format field might solve this. I believe in keeping things simple and intuitive for the user. On the other hand, Ken may have a bit of fun making it work especially if it also has a dual format release on the same disk.

Since the "mixed format" films are primarily one format with a few "oddball" scenes thrown in, I think it can be solved by adding the following:
* Mixed Format:
  * Primary          ________
  * Some Scenes ________

By populating the standard "Aspect Ratio" field that we have now, the "Mixed Format" choices would be grayed out. To use the "Mixed Format" just select the tick box and it would override the standard Aspect Ratio box. Of course, Ken may find an easier way to implement it.

Video Formats

* OAR - Original Aspect Ratio        * NTSC
  * Modified to Fit Your Screen      * PAL
      * Pan & Scan                      Aspect Ratio:
      * Cropped                            __________ 
* Full Frame                              * Mixed Format:
* Wide Screen                              * Primary        ________
  * 16x9 Enhanced                        * Some Scenes ________

Rules would need to be written to make the use more clear but this seems self explanatory for the most part.

The display might be rethought to show each of three possibilities.

Feature            Alternate Feature Format                  Extras
Graph                          Graph                                Graph

Adding tick box choices for each would be nice.

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Addressing surfeur's specific question that should be easy and even clearer. It's not simply a "mixed" format. The Dark Knight in BD was the IMAX presentation, not simply a mix of various aspect ratios.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:

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The Dark Knight in BD was the IMAX presentation, not simply a mix of various aspect ratios.

An IMAX presentation could have been only in 1.78:1. So the problem is really the mix of various aspects ratio.

DUH! Why they chose to do that, i don't know and I suspect you don't either, nor do I know how common this might be. I did not go see an Actual IMAX presentation, so how was it presented there, which might simply lead to more confusion. did it also use a mixed format presentation. The Dark knight in fact is the first such instance I am aware of, so how big a deal is this for a single flm, not very.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:

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The Dark Knight in BD was the IMAX presentation, not simply a mix of various aspect ratios.

An IMAX presentation could have been only in 1.78:1. So the problem is really the mix of various aspects ratio.

DUH! Why they chose to do that, i don't know and I suspect you don't either, nor do I know how common this might be. I did not go see an Actual IMAX presentation, so how was it presented there, which might simply lead to more confusion. did it also use a mixed format presentation. The Dark knight in fact is the first such instance I am aware of, so how big a deal is this for a single flm, not very.

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Wasn't Apollo 13 presented on a second disc in IMAX ?  the aspect ratio chosen for that film was 1.66:1 ..,, and  Interesting thing about the various aspect ratio's of Imax is most of them are only 1.33:1,  ( as is Paul Newman's Super Speedway ).,  The Imax image is what you would normally  see in 2.35 BUT instead of black bars on top and  bottom,  (as people would always complain about) , the Imax camera can 'capture' the top and bottom and therefore create that 4:3 image  .   

Skip,

Let me make sure I'm not misunderstanding you.

You are bothered by Hollywood again and voicing your displeasure with them. You actually agree with what I have suggested.

Right?

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Skip,

Let me make sure I'm not misunderstanding you.

You are bothered by Hollywood again and voicing your displeasure with them. You actually agree with what I have suggested.

Right?

Right.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:

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The Dark Knight in BD was the IMAX presentation, not simply a mix of various aspect ratios.

An IMAX presentation could have been only in 1.78:1. So the problem is really the mix of various aspects ratio.

DUH! Why they chose to do that, i don't know and I suspect you don't either, nor do I know how common this might be. I did not go see an Actual IMAX presentation, so how was it presented there, which might simply lead to more confusion. did it also use a mixed format presentation. The Dark knight in fact is the first such instance I am aware of, so how big a deal is this for a single flm, not very.

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The Secrets of Life feature on Disney's True-Life Adventures: Volume 4: Nature's Mysteries is full frame for the first 3 reels, and then blows out to cinemascope for the last reel.  Obviously there is more than one mixed ratio film out there.

Now that's interesting. Unca Walt, why for you messing with us.

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Forgot to mention, that movie was made back in 1956, so the problem has been around for a while. 

And that was released as 1.33:1 on DVD without the expansion to Cinemascope for which Disney offers corrected copies. Some of us have corrected copies and -- as Dan mentioned for BTTF -- some will still have the error copies.