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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,684 |
| Posted: | | | | I just noticed that if you want "Marley & Me" on blu-ray you get 3 discs; the blu-ray plus a DVD plus a Digital Copy. Three versions of the same film! WTF!!?
Thankfully I'm not a big Owen Wilson fan, so I would probably have passed on this one anyway, but this is just madness. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | *May contain spoilers* | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | If the price remains that of a single disc blu-ray, I don't really care. Once they start charging me for this crap, I would probably pass, or buy in a locality that has a single disc release. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
Chris |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Yeah, with BD I once thought that finally we can have all content on one disc, but of course it didn't take them long before they released 2-disc editions, and now we have to put up with this junk! Btw, I saw a Swedish DVD with a much smarter format, they simply include a link on the disc so you can download the digital copy over the internet. No need for an extra disc. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,684 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote: If the price remains that of a single disc blu-ray, I don't really care. Once they start charging me for this crap, I would probably pass, or buy in a locality that has a single disc release. Economics 101: There is no such thing as a free lunch. In the end, the consumer pays for everything. Or, to put it in other terms, if they can throw in two extra discs (and make it a 3 disc case instead of a regular case) without raising the price, then they are overcharging us for the normal BDs. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
| Registered: December 22, 2008 | Posts: 76 |
| Posted: | | | | I just got back from the store where I purchased Bolt. It too has 3 discs, BluRay, DVD and Digital copies of the film. It's was $29.99 (Canadian funds). I strongly doubt the cost of the extra 2 discs were significant. I'll take a wild guess and say the pressing of the discs works out to pennies each. Maybe several more pennies for the 3-disc case. When you pay for a BluRay, you're paying for the privilege of viewing the movie, not the manufacturing costs associated with pressing the discs, printing the inserts, etc. Other costs are advertising, transportation/freight, and others I'm likely not aware of. So even if the extra 2 discs in Bolt cost a buck or two more, I'm ok with it. I'll be giving the DVD disc to a friend of mine who has yet to make the plunge into BluRay. Poo |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote: If the price remains that of a single disc blu-ray, I don't really care. Once they start charging me for this crap, I would probably pass, or buy in a locality that has a single disc release. Economics 101: There is no such thing as a free lunch. In the end, the consumer pays for everything.
Or, to put it in other terms, if they can throw in two extra discs (and make it a 3 disc case instead of a regular case) without raising the price, then they are overcharging us for the normal BDs. They are overcharging us for the normal BDs. In my area, BDs have a regular price of $29.99+. On release day, they go for $25.99 to $27.99. Bolt, which went on sale today and includes the DVD version, is on sale for $27.99. As a comparison, Quantum of Solace is $25.99. That means I am paying $2.00 for the DVD which, on it's own, costs $16.99. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,684 |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,879 |
| Posted: | | | | If anyone's in the Louisville KY area I can let you know where to get blu-ray for $15 for older movies, $20 for newer ones. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: For what it's worth - the price difference between the single disc DVD and the one with a Digital Copy is $5. Draw your own conclusions... It's a $6 difference here...which means the digital copy, packaged with the DVD, costs more than the DVD packaged with the Blu-ray. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 262 |
| Posted: | | | | Overall I think its a reasonable deal. Having a DVD copy of the film means when I go to visit family or friends without Blu-ray you have a DVD copy to bring with you.
The cost of DVDs and Blu-rays are of course determined by many factors but overall I doubt the reduction of the extra disc is going to reduce the price much. The main factor is what can they charge and still get robust sales --- their goal is to make money. If they felt that people would not buy enough at the extra cost for the digital copy/DVD discs they would eliminate them - I assume there are more people who like the added value than will stay away b/c of the cost.
It certainly is interesting follow the developments in the industry whose products I purchase so regularly.
Brian |
| Registered: December 22, 2008 | Posts: 76 |
| Posted: | | | | Hmm, guess we have it better up here in the Great White North. Bolt : 2 discs (BluRay and DVD) $29.99Cdn ($24.30US) Bolt : 3 discs (BluRay, DVD and Digital Copy) $32.99Cdn ($26.72US) $3.00Cdn ($2.42US) difference. Current exchange rate is about .81. However, there is some strange pricing at Future Shop (our big chain up here, Best Buy now owns it). Check out the DVD prices: Bolt : DVD Only $24.99Cdn Bolt : DVD and Digital Copy $32.99Cdn That's an EIGHT DOLLAR difference! That's crazy. $8 extra for the Digital Copy with the DVD, but only $3 extra for the Digital Copy with the BluRay? Are we being "ripped off"? I don't think so. If I did, I'd be "voting" with my wallet and simply not purchasing BluRays. Poo |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,550 |
| Posted: | | | | I remember seeing Wall-E BD at Wal Mart, both versions and the were the same price, lol. Can't remember the price, probably something like $25.99 or something. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 171 |
| Posted: | | | | Yep, it isn't the physical contents that are really the cost of these, it's the movie itself.
Here is my best guess as to what it all costs:
Case: $.20 Disc: $.10 (each) Cover art: $.05 Booklet: $.15 Shrinkwrap, RFID tag and all those stickers we hate so much: $.30
So, for a 3-disc release, they would have about $1 in the material. The rest of their costs are with the advertising, shipping, licensing for the movie and various other administrative costs. Still a LOT of room for profit.
It's all about marketing. These companies are in this business to make money. They keep working to find ways for us to pay more for the same product. The only way to stop it is to quit buying the marked-up products with 'features' we don't want or need.
Personally, I buy these to watch the movies. On very rare occasions I'll watch some of the extras. If the extras are on another disc, it's extremely rare that I would watch them. So, when I buy my movies, I like the single disc versions if I can find them. I haven't used the digital copy on any of my movies, so I see no reason I would want to pay extra for this unused feature.
The one feature that I do like is the DVD copy of the movie with the BD. I've only got one Blu Ray player in my house, but quite a few DVD players. Plus, we don't have a portable BD player at all. So, the DVD copy would be nice, since I can't justify purchasing the movie twice. I'd be willing to pay an extra dollar or two for the extra DVD copy with my BD. |
| Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,805 |
| Posted: | | | | Bolt isn't the first BD I own that came with a Digital Copy and the DVD. I was originally thinking maybe it was a Disney thing, because High School Musical 3 (I know... shut up... ) was the exact same deal (and Bedtime Stories coming up in a couple weeks has the same thing). And both Bolt and HSM3 were only a couple of bucks more than the DVD + Digital Copy as well. I don't buy many BD films (generally the prices are still too high for me, and there's only one BD player in the house) but for the films I'm seeing that have BD, DVD & Digital Copy, I'm usually making an exception. I'm getting three different copies of the film that allow me to watch it literally anywhere, all for about three or four dollars more? Good enough deal for me! | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. | | | Last edited: by Merrik |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 1,982 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote: The only way to stop it is to quit buying the marked-up products with 'features' we don't want or need. Exactly, I've never bought and never will a movie with a digital copy of it as an extra. Why would I pay or care for something that I can do myself in front of my computer in less than one hour with any movie in my collection? If I'm able to do it, I'm sure that everybody can |
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